PvP Tournament

[fishinexile]

If some people think 10v1 is fun then whats wrong with that - I think we should let them have it their way - after all its their turn to be the 1 by my reckoning...

*passes round runes to certain houses in Fel*

rosik guard ya back passages aii

[fishinexile]

Anyway seeing as I took us onto a new page - on a more serious note, I repeat:

Dear Staff,

This shard is great - you and us put lots of time into it, but please please can we have a proper old-school pvp tournament as the lads have asked, it would be a brilliant event to watch and participate in, and best of all would put an end to this whose best cack that we all argue about all the time cos theres never anyone around when most of us finally find a decent well-matched fight - gimme spectators! Cheerleaders! Adrenaline! Come on after all whats the worst that could happen?

How about a poll?

[Dj_Amix]

i think we live in different time zones,cause all ur replies are completely superficial and it seems to me that when u all reply u just woke up or are very tired and almost going bed.....
im saying : 1vs1 is too much random cause of the emulator we are using,of course u can understand who is a pro,who is a noob,who is a good player.
RUN UO IS FOR 8vs8 10vs10 6vs8 18vs18 15vs18 (MASS PVP,BIG BATTLES,MANY VS MANY)and so on..in those fights u see the noob who can only gank (who usually dies in 30seconds and a pro (who is very useful and understands what to do).
IT IS NOT FOR 1vs1,cause of course u need skill in this kind of fight but u also need LUCK and a good equip.

but there is something in which we all agree,ganking = 0 skill but unfortunately it's a part of the game,cause of faction and cause of players most of all.

[fishinexile]

Actually Doom I personally find myself agreeing with all your points except that 1v1 does work on RunUO, we duel a lot in our guild mainly for practise and trying out new tactics, and recently we fought the same 2 characters against each other repeatedly, several times each with different weapons/tactics, and the results were the same each time - I code and test a lot of things for a living, and the level of results we were getting suggests that things are a lot less random than it appears to the casual observer.

Obviously there is some random stuff in there like swings, hits, fizzles, et cetera, but if the character's properly pvp-prepared it should be too low-level to be any more than an annoyance.

The time when things become more 'random' is when people start tearing the arse out of particular character templates cos they are easy to make using the identical sets of artifarties and SOPS, that way you get 2 identical people with no skill fighting, just massive firepower - the only possible result is a random one... PVP with identical sets of minimal quips sounds much better, as you have to work a bit harder and know what you're doing when one-hit kills are out of the equation.

(Honestly until we all got pigments of Tokuno to play with it was hard to tell a lot of people apart for a while!)

Anyway the bottom line why we want the pvp tourney is - cos it will be FUN!

What is there to lose anyway?

[bowlhead]

Just to add on - you don't just have the generic battles, these are too ordinary, you should have (Like I mentioned before) 1 V 1 or 2 V 2 with no eq, just 100 bandages per char and a weapon (And shield if wanted) - this would be great as the templates would shine through. For the mages something similar - the worlds our oyster and we can be quite imaginative.

Anyway - our rantings are ruining the whole point of this thread - We should hold a PvP tournament as Narcof rightly said because it would be fun. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't have to fight. Whats there to lose - Like I said before we have enough people to have a good tournament and I take it by the amount of people who have viewed this thread, theres a lot of interest. So lets do it and stop sitting on our arses and slinging remarks at each other.......

[Aegis]

Anyway a couple of pvp tournaments have alreday taken place in UOD, one 1vs1, a room-based all vs all and a few royal rumbles...ah and two or three server war too.

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Just adding on then - when is the next ones due? Since I have been on dreams I have never witnessed any such events. When are the next ones due as I am sure they are long over due.....or are they all in Italian and notices about them only posted in the Italian side of the forums??.......Maybe this is the case. (Sorry if I am a little critical tonight - I am depressed because of certain things in rl)

[fishinexile]

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YES or NO?

[Keffu]

Originally posted by Doomtrooper
i think we live in different time zones,cause all ur replies are completely superficial and it seems to me that when u all reply u just woke up or are very tired and almost going bed.....
im saying : 1vs1 is too much random cause of the emulator we are using,of course u can understand who is a pro,who is a noob,who is a good player.
RUN UO IS FOR 8vs8 10vs10 6vs8 18vs18 15vs18 (MASS PVP,BIG BATTLES,MANY VS MANY)and so on..in those fights u see the noob who can only gank (who usually dies in 30seconds and a pro (who is very useful and understands what to do).
IT IS NOT FOR 1vs1,cause of course u need skill in this kind of fight but u also need LUCK and a good equip.

but there is something in which we all agree,ganking = 0 skill but unfortunately it's a part of the game,cause of faction and cause of players most of all.

Yup yup 10vs10 is cool ect.. But at uod it is 10vs1-3 and thats not cool :d Or maybe if your facing 10 nets with 2 friends you will definetly win

[Dj_Amix]

Originally posted by narcof
Actually Doom I personally find myself agreeing with all your points except that 1v1 does work on RunUO, we duel a lot in our guild mainly for practise and trying out new tactics, and recently we fought the same 2 characters against each other repeatedly, several times each with different weapons/tactics, and the results were the same each time - I code and test a lot of things for a living, and the level of results we were getting suggests that things are a lot less random than it appears to the casual observer.

Obviously there is some random stuff in there like swings, hits, fizzles, et cetera, but if the character's properly pvp-prepared it should be too low-level to be any more than an annoyance.

The time when things become more 'random' is when people start tearing the arse out of particular character templates cos they are easy to make using the identical sets of artifarties and SOPS, that way you get 2 identical people with no skill fighting, just massive firepower - the only possible result is a random one... PVP with identical sets of minimal quips sounds much better, as you have to work a bit harder and know what you're doing when one-hit kills are out of the equation.

(Honestly until we all got pigments of Tokuno to play with it was hard to tell a lot of people apart for a while!)

Anyway the bottom line why we want the pvp tourney is - cos it will be FUN!

What is there to lose anyway?

of course that duels are the best way to learn how to live for more seconds when u are in felucca.
duel is good to learn new tacts or to try ur armor and so on....

pvp between 2 identical pg's is completely random both if they got artys or if they got a full 60 leather and the same weapons.....

but nowdays ,xcept from a gdr point of view,for me organizing a duel is uselss.
the mage parrier rulez in arena.

[bowlhead]

Originally posted by Doomtrooper

of course that duels are the best way to learn how to live for more seconds when u are in felucca.
duel is good to learn new tacts or to try ur armor and so on....

pvp between 2 identical pg's is completely random both if they got artys or if they got a full 60 leather and the same weapons.....

but nowdays ,xcept from a gdr point of view,for me organizing a duel is uselss.
the mage parrier rulez in arena.

But this is why there would be categories and organisation to mean this template doesn't rule the day - people would be fighting for a championship in their own template - dexer, mage, archers etc and an open challenge tournament. We could host duels for people who couldn't get the chance to duel in Felucca. So we could have grudge matches - its a fine idea and I am sure that we would have a lot of people sign up for these! Keep laying the foundations for this tournament as I still agree - its a great idea and not one that we can let die like the other good ideas that come through the forums.......

[Dj_Amix]

well good luck.even if only mixed 1vs1 is cool to see.


the only think i suggest to u is to make a post in the italian forum to make people sign up for ur tournament.
for example write the text in english and with the help of an online translator put it in italian and post

[fishinexile]

Nice idea Doom, I do Italian, so I shall make the post later on.

[Vash1986]

Re: PvP Tournament

Originally posted by Alezi

And then we could see who is the best mage / warrior without their über suits .

impossible
as someone else already said, sometimes players base their template on the equipment.

for example: i have +18 mana increase on armor, so i need only 90 int

what is my char worth with 90 int if i don't have my armor? should i re-stat my char just for a tournament? ^_^

[Keffu]

Re: Re: PvP Tournament

Originally posted by Vash



impossible
as someone else already said, sometimes players base their template on the equipment.

for example: i have +18 mana increase on armor, so i need only 90 int

what is my char worth with 90 int if i don't have my armor? should i re-stat my char just for a tournament? ^_^

You have uber suit and your suit gives you big advantage at duels, thats what Lilys trying to say here -..- Would you do so good in duels as you do nowdays if you hadnt got uber suit? o.@